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The HIVwave.gr forum allows
public discussion of issues related to the HIV mythology in the Greek language. It also is a communication tool for the HIVwave community of friends, including many former AIDS patients, complementing their regular meetings.
For the English readers, we recomment the well established AIDS Myth Exposed, one of the the largest "HIV/AIDS" forum on the Internet.
Some messages on the HIVwave.gr forum are posted in English, we will present a few in this page.
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Why worry about T cells?
Post by gstp, 04 Jun 2009, 21:37
I did not understand everything discussed about the T Cells counts during the HIVwave friends meeting yesterday, but here is a relevant reference.
Copy of a message posted in the"AIDS Myth Exposed.com" forum, June 1st, 2009:
"I remember a post on the old site about how low T cells are not uncommon in the general population, based upon insurance company testing. Anyone have a link to that?"
I do not have a link, at the moment, but I can assure you that almost every night of duty of mine, I see in the hospital patients with lymphocytes of less than 700. Lymphopenia is usual in a lot of feverish and acute conditions, especially in older patients. After a few days and as they recover, total lymphocytes return back to normal levels. It is a matter of circulation and distribution. Lymphocytes go to the periphery in order to participate in defense activities during the acute condition. They are not killed by anything, they are just not present in the blood. Later on they are multiplied and their number may increase for a while.
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Re: Why worry about T cells?
Post by gstp » 05 Jun 2009, 10:04
And from The Wonderland of “HIV” “tests”, by Henry Bauer ("HIV/AIDS Skepticism" blog, 4 June 2009)
— “Early studies [of AIDS patients] . . . characterized immunologic impairment, particularly low CD4 counts, comparatively elevated CD8 counts, and a low CD4/CD8 ratio. Persons without AIDS, but who had similar risk behaviors as those with AIDS, frequently also had similar abnormalities. . . . tests of immune function remained useful for staging patients, but confirmed the expectation that they were not sufficiently accurate to be used to predict if a given individual were infected with HIV” (p. 161).
Hello! One should not use criteria based on CD4 counts for diagnosis? Yet it’s routine — in the United States — to tell “HIV-positive” individuals with CD4 <200 that they have “AIDS”, despite the fact that the “HIV” test itself is an invalid self-fulfilling prophecy.
Note too the admission that immunologic disturbances can result from a range of “risk behaviors”.
So, low CD4 counts happens for the same reasons in "non positive" patients, it has nothing to do with "HIV"...
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The presence or absence of depression is more important
Post by gstp » 10 Jun 2009, 10:00
A recent issue of AIDS Clinical Care (May 18, 2009) mentioned that "the most specific predictor of quality of life in women with HIV is the presence or absence of depression, not of HIV surrogate markers".
"HIV surrogate markers" is the way "AIDS" specialist call the CD4 count (T cells) and Viral load. A part of the HIV dogma.
Reminder: Depression itself can affect our immune sytem activity. The belief in the HIV infection could be enough to 'depress' the T cells count, even in people who are not considered "infected" (those who think they are "infected" before taking the unreliable test, and turn out negative).
"HIV" has nothing to do with our health, its a matter of belief.
Not so long ago, most believed that they would go to hell if they do not follow their church commands. The HIV pseudoscience plays a similar role in our era.
Reference: http://aids-clinical-care.jwatch.org/cg ... otice_home
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Healing Perceptions, one minute video
Post by gstp » 10 Jun 2009, 10:37
Epigenetics research challenges the conventional beliefs about genes and reveals the role of emotion on our bodies and health. In this video, author and cellular biologist Bruce H. Lipton, Ph.D. explores the importance of perception in maintaining optimal health.
http://oneminuteshift.com/videos/bruce_ ... erceptions
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Withdrawal from the drug suppresses T-Cells, not "HIV"
Post by gstp » 11 Jun 2009, 10:13
The "AIDS" medication can have addictive effects, documented in the case of the popular "Sustiva". That could explain a reduction of T cells numbers after stopping the medication; again nothing to do with "HIV".
"the HIV drug Sustiva is not only highly addictive, but [...] withdrawal from the drug suppresses T-Cells and elevates “viral loads” in the same way that AIDS is diagnosed. I have found no literature that helps clinicians differentiate between the objective symptoms of Sustiva"
Quote from Clark Baker, June 2009
http://exlibhollywood.blogspot.com/2009/06/note-to-hhri-investigator.html
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